Tuesday, June 26, 2007

OFC Rocks!



Let me start out by saying that I love Clay's fan club. I will always support it and have nothing but high hopes for it.

I love reading his blogs and sometimes leaving a comment. I appreciate that we get fairly quick news updates and an e-mail when there is an announcement or some kind of an alert. If he tours near me I will take advantage of the tour information, the pre-sales and although I never want to meet Clay, I'm happy for the ones that get the opportunity via the meet & greet lotteries.

There are links to his bandmates and singers, pictures of some of his adventures and of course The Store. There are links to his Bubel Aiken Foundation, Unicef, Beads for Life and other worthy causes that Clay supports. All good things.

I have a long wish list for what I'd like to see added to the Official Fanclub Website. Some of them are:


  • A Biography


  • Discography


  • Music Videos


  • Audio or video blogs from that cute guy we support


  • A cool web design, something more than the basic website template that Clique trotted out and applied while the webmaster chewed on his bologna sandwich and only took about 5 minutes of effort between bites.


  • Contests that include all fans worldwide, not just the continental USA.



Those are just a few of my hopes but if nothing about the website changed I would still pay my annual membership and want to be counted.

OFC Rocks but it has another meaning. I'm referring to the message board. The admin and some of the moderators are as dumb as a box of Rocks!

I know I have a target on my head because I dared to criticize the complete and utter stupidity of some of those mods, and yes, I also question their motives. They are responsible for a huge portion of the fanclub members to abandon the board, and in some cases, they left the online fandom altogether. It could have been prevented and it could still be fixed but not with some of those fools in control of that board.

If you are reading this, and are a member, then you know what I'm talking about. If you aren't a member but would like to support Clay and take advantage of the website and what it offers, sign up here, but don't bother to visit the OFC message board. Sadly, it is infested with haters, anti-fans and people who do not support Clay or respect him, including some of the mods.

There are hundreds of Clay Aiken boards and clubs that are run with more kindness and with a warmer welcome than you can imagine. There are groups through Yahoo, MSN, LiveJournal, FaceBook, myspace, and newsgroups. To find a message board or group, please visit Finding Clay Aiken or ask another fan. They'll be happy to help you find a place to meet and mingle with other fans online.

If you are familiar with the OFC and want to talk about it you can do it at Chexxxy's Place, you can also come over and get the lowdown from other members if you are not already familiar.

Some people asked me if I got banned or got a warning for speaking my mind a few weeks ago at the OFC message board. No, I didn't get a warning or banned. I think it would have been too obvious, then. I did get a warning again last night. What was my offense you ask? I'll show you. Some people were talking about the trolls on the board, some were making jokes about pests, fleas and gnats. My contribution was:

Take your pick. A gnat by any other name.....


Yup. That was it. Do you think I have a target on my back? Do you think it was personal? Do you think the mods that talked it over had Clay's best interests or the members' comfort and happiness in mind? Yea, I didn't think so either.

I had a signature line in all of my OFC Board posts for a few months. It read: "Dear Clay, Please delete your message board" I feel more strongly than ever about that request. It isn't personal, it never was, I just sincerely feel that some of the people in charge are doing more harm to Clay and his career than the board is worth. As some others have also noted, for a mere 30 dollars a year you can bash Clay and harass his fans to your heart's content. Other Stars have deleted their fanclub boards and for the exact same reasons.

There are a lot of great online communities but the Official Fanclub board isn't one of them, it's a cesspool of haters, liars and trolls mixed in with some of the best fans a great guy like Clay could ever ask for. Under these conditions conflict is inevitable and there have been many skirmishes and far too many casualties, unfortunately the good guys are losing.

A message board is like a small country and only as good as its leaders and we're dealing with Pol Pot when we'd rather have Nelson Mandela.

Sorry Clay :(

Tuesday, June 12, 2007

The best four letter word in Clay Nation. TOUR







An Evening With Clay Aiken

07/04/07 Dallas, TX, Pizza Hut Park
07/06/07 Houston, TX, Jones Hall
07/07/07 Tulsa, OK, Brady Theater
07/17/07 Philadelphia, PA, Mann Center for the Performing Arts
07/18/07 Syracuse, NY, Mulroy Civic Center at Oncenter
07/19/07 Canandaigua, NY, Constellation Performing Arts Center
07/20/07 Chautauqua, NY, Chautauqua Institution Amphitheater
07/21/07 Columbus, OH, Chemical Abstract Service
07/23/07 Sterling Heights, MI, Freedom Hill Amphitheater
07/25/07 Gilford, NH, Meadowbrook Farm
07/28/07 Newark, NJ, New Jersey Performing Arts Center
08/02/07 San Diego, CA, Embarcadero Marina Park South
08/03/07 Pala, CA, Pala Casino Starlight
08/04/07 Los Angeles, CA, Greek Theatre
08/05/07 Indio, CA, Fantasy Springs Resort Casino
08/10/07 Cary, NC, Koka Booth Amphitheater
08/11/07 Asheville, NC, Biltmore Estate
08/12/07 Knoxville, TN, Tennessee Theater
08/15/07 Atlanta, GA, Chastain Park Amphitheater
08/16/07 Fort Myers, FL Barbara Mann PAC
08/17/07 Tampa, FL, Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center
08/18/07 West Palm Beach, FL, Kravis Center for the Performing Arts
08/19/07 Orlando, FL, Hard Rock Live


Today a rep from Creative Artists Agency addressed the group about bookings, etc. One of the questions afterwards about the talent/performers was why they would never schedule two shows....afternoon and evening. The reply was that most of them don't have enough material. He said that for instance they handled some of the American Idols and most of them can't do more than five songs...let alone two shows....with the exception of Clay Aiken who could probably give you three hours without breaking a sweat.

Monday, June 11, 2007

Just Call Me Scapegoat.

Unbelievable!

I am the person that lost my temper at the fanclub message board and called out the moderator CanadianGal as the lousy mod that she is. She claimed to have direct communication with Clay and that he told her how to run the message board, he approved of her decisions and that he wanted the tabloid garbage to be allowed at his fanclub as long as she thought it was funny, even though the Terms Of Use aka The Rules forbid gossip, rumors and tabloids to be posted there.

Yes I lost my temper, as if that never happened to anyone else before. As if nobody else posted in that heated discussion in any way but with complete control and decorum. I guess I'm not human and I alone should be perfect at all times.

Let me clear up a few things.

*Chexxxy's Place has never, ever advocated that any of her board members argue with the haters "on their own turf". EVER!


This is from Nov 2006

My Grownup Christmas List: My One And Only Wish.


This is the goal, starve him!!! I think we need to talk about it. There are way too many people still feeding this troll. If you go there, please explain why you are still supporting the manhole because without the Claymates going there he has no reason to blog. NO REASON. Sorry for the caps but I do it for emphasis. He isn't doing it to hurt Clay anymore. He does it to hurt the fans, if we don't care he's OVER. DONE.

Can the ones that go there not see that? It doesn't matter if you never post or if you use a proxy. It ALL COUNTS. We can't save Clay by arguing with the manhole. We can't fix it or counteract the lies by going there. He doesn't care. His minions don't care what you say. The lurkers don't care. If you go there YOU ARE THE ENTERTAINMENT.

He gets hundreds of comments and thousands and thousands of hits.

This is LUNACY. STOP! I"M BEGGING YOU!

STARVE THE BASTARD!!!!!!!

I'll step off of the soapbox now.


*I did not address any of my posts at anyone making any gay innuendo in that thread. My sole focus was on the moderator and her claims of direct access to Clay's wishes and her claim that he hand picked her and approved of her every decision.

* I did not lead a mutiny to shut down the message board, even though I had a personal signature line that read: "Dear Clay, please delete your message board." The fact that there was a heated debate that eventually led the admin to close the board is pure coincidence.

* The members of Chexxxys Place did not mount a campaign to shut down the message board.

*Canadiangal was LYING when she said that Clay approved every detail of what she was doing at the message board. I called her on that lie, and I was proven correct by the statements from Clay's blog.

Many people I don't even know sent me messages during the disagreements in that thread. Here is what I was told by personal messages. I'll remove their names because that isn't important and they obviously didn't feel brave enough to post their opinions on the board.

Hi,

First of all, I wanted to tell you that you are my HERO! I am a prominent and long-time poster at the CB but mostly lurk at the OFC because of the nastiness and criticism, etc.
I am so extremely grateful for the courage, candidness and stance of many of the posters in the Paris thread...but mostly yours Titian. Thank you for saying what so many of us feel!

About **-**-**, I have been wondering for quite some time where she posts outside of the OFC. Would you be comfortable sharing that with me? Is she an OC'er??

Keep up the good work!




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I just discovered this thread and want to say that I agree with you and most of the other fans who are sick to death of how this Fan Club Message board has gone amuck. I can not believe Clay wants to constantly be reminded of tabloid rumor and innuendo.

Canadian Gal made two comments tonight which I am puzzled by. When did DF say that Clay went to Paris? Also, CG was very adamant about Kimmel bashing Clay the night before
Clay appeared there in Sept. Do you know if this is in fact true? What was Kimmel supposed to have said? I don't recall any mention of a bash on any of the boards. Now it doesn't mean he didn't say something but
it seems odd that no one on any board would have mentioned it. Can you enlighten me?

I'm sure Clay is disappointed that there are less members at the OFC than last year but I know so many people that didn't join because they couldn't put up with the constant disrespect of Clay and fighting among fans.
Perhaps, under conditions the way they currently exist, Clay should shut down the Message Board. Period.

Hope you can help me out with my questions.

Thanks

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I just want to tell you, that while I protest(much) I do agree with your idea, this board is NOT how it should be absolutely, there is far to much negativity and disrespect for Clay..I DO agree with that.

Just wanted to let you know, even though I dont agree that the mods are to blame, I DO agree that something needed to change.

By the way, I was told I know you by another name, you dont have to tell me what that is(by the way it was by someone who agreed with you lol) I just want to know if I KNOW you know you, or if your just well known that I would know who you were by your other name...?

anyways, I disagreed with you a lot on the thread, so you dont have to be nice to me, I just wanted to let you know that in the bigger picture I do agree with you that SOMETHING needs to change..I really am hoping this thread will do it, and it has turned into more of a discussion, Im happy about that


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I don't know who you are but I just read the 'newest' thread about Tabloids and Page Six and I agree with you 100%.

I have long believed that Clay does not have any control over this site.




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Hey!

I don't know if you are using a different name here, as I don't remember reading your posts before, but... I totally agree with what you are saying about how this fan club is run. And I have independent confirmation that you are correct.

It really bothers me to think that we will have to wait until Clay is done with RCA and can ditch this mess. I hope there will be enough hue and cry over this issue to force some sort of resolution.

I can't say this on the board, but none of the mods are very bright. BFS, in particular, is so very dim. I can't believe she's an attorney!! Argggh.

Anyhoo... thanks for fighting the good fight!


Some people wonder why there is so much resentment about the way the board is moderated. I was given an official and stern warning when I participated in another discussion. That is what inspired me to add my signature asking Clay to delete the message board. Judge for yourself whether my posts in that thread merited such warnings and threats of suspension or banning. To me the inmates were now running the asylum.

Dear Titian:

The moderators have had several discussions today regarding the posts made in the “Clay-this is why you're losing fans, imo” thread. Based on your post(s) which are more fully detailed below you are being issued a warning for violating the TOU’s.

The following posts are the ones that were edited and/or deleted from the above mentioned thread and have been found to be in violation of the TOUs:
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"why certain fans feel it is necessary to "defend" him from other fans."

I'll tell you why, because not all members of the fanclub are fans. Some are brokers, some are haters and some are here to entertain themselves by upsetting the fans and bashing Clay. It only costs 30 bucks a year for "freedom of speech" on his message board. If nobody was attacking then there would be no need for defending. Quite a simple concept really.


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A message board is like a small country and is only as good as its leaders.

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I love reading the Flame Warriors website. They have it down to a science.

Quote:
Cyber Sisters are an extremely fierce confederation of fighting females who act something like a shrill Greek chorus, echoing and amplifying one another's voice until their foes retreat in disarray. They are generally leaderless, but anyone who challenges one Cyber Sister can expect to be savagely attacked by the others. Only the most powerful and battle-hardened of Warriors is strong enough to weather a Cyber Sisters attack.

http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/index.htm


If you choose to post in a similar manner in the future, it will result in you being issued additional warnings and could lead to a future suspension of your membership or banning from the Fan Club site.

We thank you for your attention to this matter and trust that we will not have to revisit this issue again.

Thank you,



I didn't attack anyone. I simply made a few observations without naming names or personally attacking anyone. Once again I got a flurry of personal messages thanking me for telling it like it is. Free speech is NOT alive and well on that board.

*Butterflyshine's refusal to admit that she had violated the TOU of the OFCB is the real reason the fans were so incensed in that thread that eventually caused the meltdown. This was compounded by the total arrogance of CanadianGal who attacked and lied to anybody who complained. And THAT is what led to the mutiny. Who is there to complain to? The mods weren't following the rules, and the mystery Admin are unreachable.

*Clique has done a crappy job of running that fanclub. Their Admins were missing in action, unresponsive, and ineffective. They never took the time to respond to any complaints in the past, and they were so dull witted that their solution, if you had complaints about the poor mods, was to tell members to complain about the mods to the mods. How stupid is that?

The revolt was an organic event that grew out of incompetence, arrogance and indifference on the part of the staff and moderators that run the board. I do not include RaleighAikenFan or I'mFeelingItDawg in that assessment.

Many guilty parties would like me to take the rap for the closing of the board but they do not take any responsibility themselves. Some people exhibited shameful boasting and posturing about how they were so perfect because they would never allow such happenings on their board, some of the ones that were agitators in that thread were quick to lay the blame on me to deflect from their own bad behavior. Some people quickly passed around the rumor that it was a planned attack. How ridiculous!

A special shout out to a couple of ex friends for appointing themselves as my very first haters. Thank you for telling anyone who will listen all about the board you never saw and know nothing about, but you're the experts on everything aren't you. Who needs facts when a narrow judgmental mind will do the job. You should be proud of yourselves for cooking up this story and so diligently passing it around and around and around. Your members must be proud of you.

I have enemies because I let people talk about what is on their minds at my board. I don't moderate it and I don't have any moderators. I don't even tell them what to think and say. My members really appreciate being treated like adults and disagreements are extremely rare because they value the community and because they are treated with respect. If a disagreement breaks out my members are welcome to duke it out until they either find common ground or agree to disagree.

I have few rules. I ask that political and religious discussions be avoided and that Clay, his family, friends and employees are to be respected. That is the foundation of the rules--respect for Clay Aiken. Anyone who respects Clay Aiken is welcome. Those who choose to bash him, insult him, vilify him, undercut him, are not welcome. What a concept! It's downright revolutionary!



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